tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post6916498089196312866..comments2024-03-28T10:14:58.693+00:00Comments on The Good the Bad and the Insulting: 7 Major Changes Codex: Sisters of Battle NeedsBellariushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02652722543111095280noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-46437779679441088772018-03-14T22:31:51.157+00:002018-03-14T22:31:51.157+00:00I won't say anything fully in response to that...I won't say anything fully in response to that, just that you might want to check back in about three hours when the blog updates. The next article is actually discussing a subject along these lines.Bellariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02652722543111095280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-16859528139302328272018-03-14T00:41:57.456+00:002018-03-14T00:41:57.456+00:00They should give the sisters of battle a unit of h...They should give the sisters of battle a unit of half-giant women who serve a role similar to wraithguard or terminators. They could be equippable as anti-armour units using multi meltas, and/or some other kind of theme-y weapon, or they could be outfitted with things like thunderhammers to serve as a shock melee unit. <br />Their lore could be that when the ecclesiarchy was told "no men", they decided they'd try and get their money's worth out of the women loophole, attempting to put sets of women, or unborn-women (doesn't really matter), though a super soldier program. They found that it works really well, making them bigger and stronger than an average marine. however the mortality rate is incredibly ridiculously high for the program, and so they're an incredibly rare, super-elite unit. <br />if anyone complains that it's some sort of weird feminist propaganda (Which it isn't, they just need something to fill that role, and might as well pick something fun and goofy), then point them in the direction of primaris marines and all the other batshit lore-breaking/retconned stuff that has been added to make the marines even more over the top. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10644672701443052592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-61481664375016376122018-03-14T00:35:45.646+00:002018-03-14T00:35:45.646+00:00I think that with the advent of the primaris marin...I think that with the advent of the primaris marines it would be funny to give the sisters a heavy infantry unit that is similar in strength to the wraithguard or a unit of terminators, that essentially has a lore of:<br />Women aren't incapable of going through the marines program, in fact, when it works for them, it works incredibly well, making them 10ft tall (possibly a process that has to be started at birth) and incredibly strong(S+T 5/6), however the downside is that the mortality rate is insane, with only the rarest of the rare ever successfully coming through the program. Meaning the sisters have a few very rare units of amazonian style shock troopers that can either be fitted with anti-tank weapons, probably multimeltas, or with some power weapons like thunderhammers and such. Then they have a kind of rule of cool goofy unit that fills the heavy infantry role. And if anyone complains about it breaking the lore, point them to the primaris marines and all the other new shit that has been written in to further favouritise the space marines. <br />I am however biased, as I think it'd be really fun to have a unit of giant women wrecking shit. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10644672701443052592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-67061489765664711082016-12-09T07:06:18.076+00:002016-12-09T07:06:18.076+00:00Regarding the armour not being realistic enough, t...Regarding the armour not being realistic enough, think that also applies to Sergents and Special Characters of Space marines going into combat with their helmets off or with all manner of easily flammable totems and furs hanging off them. All of the costumes are stylised and GW should ham up the outfits of the Sisters even more in the style of comic book super heroines like Wonder Woman whose uniform has nothing to do with function but is aesthetically attractive. May attract even more people to the universe not just seeing the grim dark models all the time!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16579009966020394157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-4425429840880755312016-08-29T17:22:28.396+01:002016-08-29T17:22:28.396+01:00Hello there, Bellarius; thanks for your solidly-wr...Hello there, Bellarius; thanks for your solidly-written article. As a first-time reader of your blog series and player all things Imperium and Adepta Sorortus since the latter's Witch Hunter days, it's been both interesting and (in some respects) mildly distressing to see where a valuable cog in the Imperium's machine has been ending up.<br /><br />Point #5 caught my eye and you're right that the Sisters are sadly lacking in 'character punch' that can easily be gleaned from either prior editions or GW's fiction and lore. One name that comes to mind is an old character from GW's earlier delves into fiction - the living nightmare for Chaos that is Ephrael Stern, aka the Thrice-Born and the Ordo Malleus' "Enemy of the Imperium" #667.<br /><br />As to the hows of Sstern's hypothetical implementation, I'm not too sure. Maybe have her be an Independant Character (outfitted as a Seraphim Superior or Palatine) who causes penalties for psychic attacks on her and her allies or Daemonic Instability to daemons in base contact; for balance, she might cost a couple of hundred points, can't be taken by the Grey Knights or Ordo Malleus-affiliated forces (considering they hate her guts for a LONG list of reasons) and any Hereticus and Xenos Inquisitors would have the One Eye Open rule when around her.<br /><br />All I'm saying is that there's more then enough precedence there for characters old and new to make up the shortfall, and its a shame the army hasn't been given this wriggle room to really come back with a bang.CM26617https://www.blogger.com/profile/17494512147363028822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-33127400292715052362016-08-04T20:35:26.606+01:002016-08-04T20:35:26.606+01:00Ah, well, just as a quick heads up, the "Livi...Ah, well, just as a quick heads up, the "Living Saints" bit was more of a joke than anything else, as so few Sororitas characters are actually alive. Most of that was just focusing upon how we really need more special characters in this army, HQ choices or otherwise. After all, they're supposed to be a cog in a bigger machine, and right now there's little in the way of unit variety or choice. Sorry for not making that clearer from the start, that really was my fault there.Bellariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02652722543111095280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-61115984922638285162016-08-04T08:20:57.933+01:002016-08-04T08:20:57.933+01:00First things first, make Living Saints a 0-1 choic...First things first, make Living Saints a 0-1 choice with a great deal of customization (Living Saints are supposed to be anything from Pilgrims to Priests to Sisters to Inquisitors even), bring back multiple faith options for each unit, and add in more Ecclesiarchy forces, for example where are the Confessor's?<br /><br />Now this is a great assessment, and the Sisters technically used to have suggestion #6, able to include other Imperial forces (Imperial Guard (which could also be PDF's) Space Marines and even Arbites, making them the only faction that could legally field the Arbites) as if they were functionally the same army, and later they were given Zealots which were the civilians driven to defending them, which in the modern edition, along with a few morale buffs, would go a good deal to show how well they are revered among the Imperium as a whole (maybe even boost their cover save if Guardsmen/Zealots are in front of them).<br /><br />I'm iffy on the point of Living Saints, since I'd prefer lore-specific mentions only with the option of building your own Saint (honestly kind of like 5th edition C'tan or a Daemon Prince), the options having a few things in common with the lore-specific ones (maybe even give the player a bonus via formation if you really want the character with a specific combination of powers but don't want to bog down the regular book).<br /><br />For point #3, I honestly quite like their current tabletop armour, since you don't draw too much attention to it as it is, focusing instead on the massive gun each Sister has. The current artwork is ridiculous though, I'll agree there and it definitely doesn't look like their tabletop counterpart (that redesign also looks pretty good).<br /><br />#2 and #1 are kind of the same issue for me, that being I hate the current faith system. I didn't really like it in 5th edition either, however the randomization did mean that I was using faith powers quite a lot, which also went a decent way to making the army feel like their own army, rather than Space Marine lite or better armoured Tempestus Scions.<br />I still prefer the four global powers they used to have, I'd take them with the random faith system if I really had to, but they allowed for far more tactical flexibility than what we currently had, and could even be used to help out certain aspects like #7. They could even add formations that could give new global faith abilities or add bonuses to the random faith total, though if they were to go with random faith, I'd also appreciate if they added conditions that would force you to suffer permanent negative modifiers if certain conditions were met to keep it balanced.grdaathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00722216755745063033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-68076214189246770622016-08-04T06:11:51.285+01:002016-08-04T06:11:51.285+01:00One would think GW would know that and/or act on i...One would think GW would know that and/or act on it, yes. However, this is GW we're talking about, they march to their own kazoo player. We can only hope he's a good kazoo player.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15587499275311246186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-91976991269613441092016-08-03T08:07:13.742+01:002016-08-03T08:07:13.742+01:00If GW made a plastic army of SoB then would earn l...If GW made a plastic army of SoB then would earn lot of money. I know several people (included myself) that would right away spend lot of money to buy a new army of them. So strange that GW don´t see it themself?Ulfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09115844297539079615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-63979243875014324862016-08-01T18:39:55.812+01:002016-08-01T18:39:55.812+01:00“Solid redesign where the ornate look and build is...“Solid redesign where the ornate look and build is maintained.” Thank you for clarifying, I can agree with that sentence.<br /><br />It’s that whenever people bring up the Sisters’ armor, I get nervous because it sounds like they want to take away the Sisters’ distinctive design and make it one more “realistic armor design” among the dozens of realistic armor designs that already exist in other franchises. I’m okay with realistic armor designs. People can have their realistic armor without impinging on 40k’s Rule of Cool.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15587499275311246186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-79959562484963242222016-08-01T12:54:52.177+01:002016-08-01T12:54:52.177+01:00Hah, did seriously consider one a few times but it...Hah, did seriously consider one a few times but it never seemed to truly work with any point unfortunately.<br /><br />Anyway, I can certainly see where you're coming from with the Sisters' armour and I still do agree the ornate aspects and design do serve a good purpose on the whole. The problem is that the corset itself seems to override all else, until people are either focused exclusively upon that or forget this stuff is actually armour. Astartes armour, even when ultra-thin, still looks as if it could take a few solid hits and a chainsword blade, but by comparison most of the Sororitas stuff looks as if it could barely offer more proection from general flak armour. I just personally think it needs a solid redesign where the ornate look and build is maintained, but it's more obviously an actual build of armour.Bellariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02652722543111095280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-38738580269051278272016-08-01T05:25:19.322+01:002016-08-01T05:25:19.322+01:00Pretty solid assessment overall. Slightly disappo...Pretty solid assessment overall. Slightly disappointed there was no pun on “Defenders of the Faith” as a reference to the Judas Priest album. Oh well.<br /><br />I disagree with Point 3 from start to finish. I like the Sisters’ armor the way it is, and I do not understand why some people get so worked up over it. The one exception is your point about the corsets, that they could look like cosmetic additions over existing power armor. I’ll give you that. Otherwise, I’m hearing, “No, you cannot have fun with distinctive sci-fi power armor designs”.<br /><br />They have the distinction of being the only all-female army in Warhammer, (and the only Gothic nun army in existence as far as I know) and should wear that literal breastplate proudly.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15587499275311246186noreply@blogger.com