tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post6317676627584764717..comments2024-02-21T12:08:15.924+00:00Comments on The Good the Bad and the Insulting: Clan Raukaan: Part 1 - The Lore (Warhammer 40,000 Codex Supplement Review)Bellariushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02652722543111095280noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-86423508845440481222014-11-18T17:15:27.845+00:002014-11-18T17:15:27.845+00:00Glad to have read this review, I think wholesale m...Glad to have read this review, I think wholesale murdering of a faction's lore is terrible! I've recently got back into 40k gaming after a mere 25 year gap. I love the narrative/fluff of the 40k universe but have seen way too much mangling of it by GW. There are so many players out there that collect armies not for their prowess on a table or in a tournament, but for the stories attached to them, the characters and the fun element of playing a force with a great history. Hopefully the powers that be will get enough negative feedback about this style of codex that they'll rethink...JThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03059438013519816574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-10927180017733706392014-04-11T13:17:30.798+01:002014-04-11T13:17:30.798+01:00You're more than welcome and thank you for tak...You're more than welcome and thank you for taking the time to comment. Far too many reviews informing hobbyists were paying any degree of attention to the lore, and quite frankly travesties like this need to be brought up as much as well written pieces. Almost every single last Supplement Codex has been of this quality and utterly ruined the army they have been trying to promote.Bellariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02652722543111095280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-66803148516361151472014-04-11T01:36:04.340+01:002014-04-11T01:36:04.340+01:00thank you for taking the time and care to write th...thank you for taking the time and care to write this analysis. I hope it is read by someone at GW. I raised some of these points on GWs Facebook page (when it had one) however even though I was faultlessly polite my comments were deleted without answer and I was blocked from the page.<br /><br />Before 6th Ed came out I was determined to start an Iron Hands army and even tracked down a copy of WD 262 with all the fluff in it. Clan Raukaan supplement actually put me off starting this army. <br /><br />I was recently persuaded to start it up again by a friend but I will be pretending that the fluff in this awful document was never written. Knight of Infinite Resignationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02680099835726778306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-8324507548095107872013-12-09T10:16:00.013+00:002013-12-09T10:16:00.013+00:00How?
The book changes their structure from someth...How?<br /><br />The book changes their structure from something unique into one every army has,<br />it removes a unique rank within the chapter and reduces it to a meaningless title,<br />It completely removes two of its few successors from existence, one of which has its defining traits rehashed purely so they can be forced upon the Iron Hands,<br />It then proceeds to drastically alter their attitude towards the Imperium and Mechanicus, turning them into hired muscle for the latter Adeptus,<br />it changes the fate of their primarch and does all but outright turn him into a traitor,<br />it all but outright calls all of their traditions wrong as they were influenced to accept them by the daemonic remnants of their primarch,<br />it turns the Iron Hands into hypocrites by willingly serving one force at beck and heel but tries to force all others to fight for themselves, ruining their defining ideology,<br />it confusingly jumps between the Iron Hands hating Ferrus Manus and valuing him, completely altering how they viewed the Isstvan V Massacre,<br />then finally it concludes with a piece seemingly declaring that their mentality of cold logic is utterly wrong.<br /><br />Please explain how nothing major was changed.Bellariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02652722543111095280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-37304853113596357672013-12-09T09:55:07.150+00:002013-12-09T09:55:07.150+00:00So what all of this is meaningless. There's no...So what all of this is meaningless. There's nothing major changed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-91801852378145165612013-12-07T20:10:25.014+00:002013-12-07T20:10:25.014+00:00Im actually half tempted to pirate a copy, print t...Im actually half tempted to pirate a copy, print the cover, wipe my ass with it and sending it to GW HQ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-362170229733745152013-12-07T18:19:06.512+00:002013-12-07T18:19:06.512+00:00Hm. Thank you for pointing out that error, i'm...Hm. Thank you for pointing out that error, i'm honestly not sure how I managed to do that. That part has been corrected to properly address the issues found in that sequence.Bellariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02652722543111095280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-90798334909807723292013-12-07T13:59:24.445+00:002013-12-07T13:59:24.445+00:00there was a mistake in one of your examples in the...there was a mistake in one of your examples in the lore. you mentioned the passage of when they arrive to the Aebrasyn system to find the Alaitoc. this wasnt at the request of the Ad. Mech, nor were were any Ad. Mech. there at all. the planetary governor called for assistance against the eldar threat and the guard and Catachan arrived to deal with it. they soon realized they couldn't handle the threat and called for assistance. the iron hands arrived, and using their Cold Logic many of the older fans are fond of, focused on what the Alaitoc's apparent goal on the planet was and focused their effort there, eventually digging up what we would later come to know as necron technology which they secreted away and hid deep underground in Medusa for study, leaving the Catachan's to fight for survival, or die. which they did the latter since a vengeance fleet of eldar arrived to punish the forces there for killing the Farseer one of the Iron Hands killed in battle at the dig site.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-71143239806837440202013-12-07T13:49:13.006+00:002013-12-07T13:49:13.006+00:00Even though I haven't purchased the supplement...Even though I haven't purchased the supplement (I'm still debating if I should), I have to say I can't disagree with you. What I have seen of the new supplement churns my stomach. As an Iron Hands player for more than a decade, I will let GW know of my displeasure with them in the one way they will understand...I will make my opinion known with my wallet.<br /><br />bannusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-54693436860209264862013-12-07T11:41:53.999+00:002013-12-07T11:41:53.999+00:00Agreed, that's exactly what I was going to rec...Agreed, that's exactly what I was going to recommend once i've finished with the rules section of this review.Bellariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02652722543111095280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-60479571059611939802013-12-07T07:09:04.220+00:002013-12-07T07:09:04.220+00:00Exactly.
If you want to play Iron Hands, use the ...Exactly.<br /><br />If you want to play Iron Hands, use the Space Wolves codex instead, they're far closer to what the Iron Hands were than what the Iron Hands are now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com