tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post3976898132627555007..comments2024-02-21T12:08:15.924+00:00Comments on The Good the Bad and the Insulting: Cult Mechanicus Part 2 - The Rules (Warhammer 40,000 Codex Review, 7th Edition)Bellariushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02652722543111095280noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-68401789388993139292015-11-08T13:38:48.873+00:002015-11-08T13:38:48.873+00:00A few months on I don't think this post is acc...A few months on I don't think this post is accurate at all. Cult mechanics don't warrent nearly as much but hurt as the author implies. It just reads like a massive overeaction. Both varieties of priests are terrible. The troops are middling. The castellan are good as is the dominus. The only formation that is worth using is the cohort. The army can't stand on its own and has only seen success at tournaments with the war convocation allied with flesh tearrers for drop pods. That detachemwnt is strong because it makes all upgrades free and allows everything to benefit from canticles. So the statement that pure cult mechanics without drop pods and the war convocation makes eldar look balanced is laughable. I'm still waiting for the release that means I can field my eldar without being called a WAAC power gamer, and I can tell you cult mechanics aint it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-33193109809222809212015-06-30T22:28:34.849+01:002015-06-30T22:28:34.849+01:00I honestly don't see the elite priests as bein...I honestly don't see the elite priests as being remotely playable for their point per model cost (can't remember but think it was 18).<br />With toughness 3 and 5+ save they will day to anyone looking at them funny. Yes if they get there they can put out a lot of attacks but sadly they won't Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-51960688468138199652015-06-09T04:19:43.182+01:002015-06-09T04:19:43.182+01:00I thought I would point out that the Kastelan boun...I thought I would point out that the Kastelan bouncing shots doesn't include Psykic powers or blasts or templates.<br /><br />"A repulsor grid cannot deflect Blast or Template weapons or psychic shooting attacks."<br /><br />Personally. I enjoy the book and it's what brought em back into 40k. I can see the balance issues but I'm not a power gamer.......And I wanted my damn robots.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-32366132200967967852015-06-05T23:07:59.271+01:002015-06-05T23:07:59.271+01:00Oh, Formations have their place, but it's sure...Oh, Formations have their place, but it's sure as all hell not in basic 40K. When they were all good and fun was in the stupidly large battles or huge conflicts, like what we had with Apocalypse. Having stuff there like Lyander's hammer crew and some of the utter insanity of certain formations worked for three reasons. The game wasn't supposed to be played competitively so there was more freedom, the scale of power was far larger so there was less damage to potentially be done, and many could be thematic without going so utterly nuts like here. After all, fielding a full company of space marines with rhinos is considerably different than some cyber bishop with a couple of servitors.<br /><br />Ah, my bad then. It did seem to be oddly slightly weaker than its contemporary, so that small correction suddenly explains a hell of a lot. Thank you for pointing that out, i'll have to correct that as soon as I have moment.<br /><br />It's funny at its basic level yeah, but you know that certain rules are going to be written with the basic expectation of those things being applied to smaller stealthy models. For example, a mission involving a sensor array could easily be written have a rule giving bonuses for advancing forces with stealth or shrouded. In this case the Cult Mechanicum would have an obscene advantage over everyone else.<br /><br />Well, that's the final point which is truly irksome. This is Games Workshop trying to see how well they can get away with selling each and every army piecemeal. Given the sheer power they're using to try and get people to spend twice the usual price on armybooks, and if they have this much of an advantage this could well be a greenlight to have more nonsense ahead. Given we have Codex: Space Marines right around the corner, can you imagine for a second what it'd be like if they broke up multiple units chapter by chapter (Ultras, Imp Fists, Iron Hands, Raven Guard, White Scars), then had people spend £20 per book.Bellariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02652722543111095280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1831276194138109948.post-27669781276620334182015-06-05T09:22:03.206+01:002015-06-05T09:22:03.206+01:00I think the idea of formations is a good one, but ...I think the idea of formations is a good one, but I think the implementation in this case is terrible. I figure the ideal implementation would be things like the more rigid Horus Heresy Rites of War. Those give the specific advantages/disadvantages. that these try to do without being horribly overpowered (none of them give ignores cover/no scatter deep striking for example).<br /><br />I think you slightly misread the rules for Shock, you don't roll 2 additional dice, they're two additional automatic hits, that said if you're really lucky one model shooting then charging can do 16 wounds on its own, so it's still a big problem.<br /><br />Something really funny is in that formation I mentioned in the previous article everyone gets Canticles of the Omnissiah, including the knight can now have stealth and shrouded, which while funny is ultimately useless since its normal invulnerable save is almost always better. Much less useless are some of the other benefits though.<br /><br />There really isn't that much else to say as I agree with everything else on here. The combined Mechanicus are going to be THE competitive army to play and it's going to be really annoying to play against them.grdaathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00722216755745063033noreply@blogger.com